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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 8 2006, 10:14 PM (303 Views) | |
| Harborne Blue | Jan 8 2006, 10:14 PM Post #1 |
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When Sullivan and the Golds bought our beloved club we were sh1t. Sh1t ground, sh1t players, sh1t manager. They've invested millions in BCFC to buy the club, renovate the ground and push for promotion. Now it didn't come at the speed many would have liked but that's because BCFC is run (as it should be) as a tight business. We make money, we have no debt and the board is prepared to dip into it's own pockets to buy players that the balance sheet says we can't really afford. £2.5m cash for FigRoll from Sully, the Golds pitching in with him to fund this windows purchases. I don't believe that they're going to throw money around like water but I do believe that, as sound business people they will be looking at the cost of the 'worst case scenario' and be prepared to invest wisely to avoid this. So I am not going to worry. We have a good squad, a manager with a good record of attracting talent (bonjour Christophe) and money to spend on the right players. What I am going to do is stop making negative posts as this board has become a miserable place to be and I'd urge everyone else to do the same. It's time to stand up and be counted because we are all truly in this together now and moaning means you're part of the disease. Time to be part of the cure. **thumbup KRO and SO bl**dy TV!! |
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| Blooboy | Jan 8 2006, 10:16 PM Post #2 |
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well said mate, i for one won't be please about relegation...but if we do go down and heaven forbid, i reckon we'll bounce back, The Blues always do **thumbup |
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| Only-Blue-In-Bridgnorth | Jan 8 2006, 10:16 PM Post #3 |
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Peter Enckelman
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here here !! |
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| Blue64 | Jan 8 2006, 10:18 PM Post #4 |
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Bob Hatton
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Well Said **thumbup |
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| Aff | Jan 8 2006, 10:23 PM Post #5 |
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Frank Worthington
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Ah, the Golds and Sullivan did it all? Right! And here was me thinking the money was coming from £45 ticket prices and the sponsoring of things like bookings and substitutions. Don't get me wrong, I love our board and over time, they've done a *GOOD* job at St Andrews but the fans as much as anyone have paid for us to get back where we are. And we've lost a few die-hards along the way too... |
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| k-bek | Jan 8 2006, 10:26 PM Post #6 |
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I support our board and appreciate them for all of the above reasons but I will not be eternally grateful to them. They have done a fantastic job of building our club and putting it into a very strong financial position. People are now looking towards Portsmouth and want our board to throw money at us like Gaydamak (sp) is likely to do there. I don't want that. The last thing I want for BCFC is to have it totally reliant on the board for financial stability. Even Chelsea FC could not possibly hope to sustain itself finacially if Abramovich left. Chelsea would go bankrupt tomorrow. They'd have to sell all their top earners at a lower price than they paid. It will go pear shaped one day and boy will they know it. It'll be lead ballon time for Chelsea if Abramovich ever finds himself in a pair of concrete boots. Clubs like Man Utd, Arsenal and Real MAdrid spend big because they're big clubs. Clubs like Chelsea and maybe Portsmouth spend big becuase their chairmen have big wallets. Just look at Leeds, Bradford and Sheffield Wednesday to see how quickly clubs fall from grace once their chairmen spend moeny the club can't afford. Id much rather have what we've got any day. |
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| Mr. Barnard | Jan 8 2006, 10:50 PM Post #7 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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Support for board and Bruce from me as always. |
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| garrybaldy | Jan 8 2006, 10:51 PM Post #8 |
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foley okenla, richie moran
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change the record about leeds, wednesday etc you always trot that garbage out, Arsenal and real madrid owe more than those teams put together yet they are 'big' clubs, yeah with 'big' debts. If you are saying a 10-20 million cash injection would take us under then what a sad state of affairs. we would get that back in parachute payments should the dreaded finally happen, remember it took us 17 years to get our top flight status back , i dont want to go through that again ,especially asking 'what if' |
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| Joe Black | Jan 8 2006, 11:04 PM Post #9 |
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Cant question the boards commitment but that dont mean they are doing the right thing keeping a manager that is failing to come up with the goods |
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| harry | Jan 8 2006, 11:08 PM Post #10 |
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Martin Taylor
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I agree with supporting the board. They have been first class. I don't agree that fans should stop expressing valid criticism (or "moaning"). There are two bigs areas that are not right. 1. Most importantly. Performances have been poor over a long period. Fans can't cure this. "Cure" requires tactics, coaching and motivation. That is Brucie's job & he is well paid to do it. 2. The commercial management of the club - merchandising, ticket prices, catering, etc - is very poor. During the KB era the club has been run with the sole aim of maximising revenue & so looking after the fans is not a priority. Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil is not being part of a cure. |
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| Seasoned Pro | Jan 8 2006, 11:26 PM Post #11 |
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No-one can really argue what the board has done for this club. However, whether it is a player, manager or a director, no-one should be above criticism at the club regardless of past performance, decision making or achievements. We should remember the past, but whats more important is living for today, and striving towards the future. |
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| Bookemdanno | Jan 9 2006, 11:10 AM Post #12 |
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I thank them for what they've done. They turned an ailing club around. But, they haven't done it for love. They have done it as a business, with a bit of enjoyment and adopted love along the way. Now while I appreciate there efforts. Not everything they do IS rosy and not everything is right! They still rule with a business sense, and at times this is the correct approach. But a lot of times theres situations where they could have done that little bit more. They could have gone that extra yard, where it could have produced an extra mile. Speculate to accumulate and all that. Sometimes i do believe they are a little bit short sighted! ........and sentiment can not always be first and foremost! |
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| proccy_blues | Jan 9 2006, 11:17 AM Post #13 |
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Joe Bradford
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ah, so its all down to the 6000 fans paying £6 a go at the time then? well if thats the case we can let the board go and get the kumars back, what fun that would be - i certainly never paid anywhere near £45 at the time, and anyone who did is mental ;) this board are great for our club in just about every respect - cant say the same for the commercial department, but thats brady's call not the board :rolleyes: |
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| BluesBot | Jan 9 2006, 11:24 AM Post #14 |
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TBH although marketing and sponsorship might be at saturation point and get on the nerves somewhat it still generates an income - more income hopefully for better players |
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| proccy_blues | Jan 9 2006, 11:26 AM Post #15 |
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Joe Bradford
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correct again - it appears overkill but who's moaning when the players get signed? no-one ;) |
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| BluesBot | Jan 9 2006, 11:30 AM Post #16 |
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TBH it shouldn't be a question of how we generate money - at least not at the exspense of the fans (although most clubs do to certain degrees) but how it is spent. And it is how it is spent that marks a clubs success |
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| barryblue | Jan 9 2006, 11:33 AM Post #17 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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No one paid £45 at the time!!that isnt what the man said fgs...The finances are projected ie we use the money to come!In other words the £45 used as an example is catered for in the next seasons spending! That WAS a sensible post till twisted.... The outlay wasnt out of anyones pocket when they came in (personal that is) they are business men and doing a pretty good job!They dont bankroll the club WE DO! |
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| harry | Jan 9 2006, 11:35 AM Post #18 |
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Martin Taylor
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The club should be run for the fans. At the moment it is being run to maximise revenue; the fans are a secondary consideration. |
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| TJDIXI | Jan 9 2006, 11:42 AM Post #19 |
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i still think we have the best board and i still think we should keep them but there has IMO been a difference in attitude from the board and management since the Bowyer transfer saga |
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| BluesBot | Jan 9 2006, 11:43 AM Post #20 |
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And why do the board maximise revenue - so that they can have a club which stands on own two feet - however it does need to distinguish between the word supporter/fan and customer a little better It dosent matter much if the club wants maximises it revenue wherever possible as thats only good for the club - except where the supporters are concerned More revenue then can go into the squad and facilities etc (in a perfect world at least) |
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| proccy_blues | Jan 9 2006, 11:44 AM Post #21 |
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Joe Bradford
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just explain how that would work please? if what you mean is cheaper seats/tickets then if you're happy with being outside the prem fair enough. to compete at anything, you have to generate cash or risk getting left too far behind. dont get me wrong, i dont like stuping up nearly £500 for my st, but its the economics of the division we're in imo |
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| BluesBot | Jan 9 2006, 11:53 AM Post #22 |
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AS things stand - the area's where BCFC need to improve with regards to fans / supporters is by doing the right thing i.e listening and acting on complaints - i.e better quality of service on matchdays (refreshments, tickets office, Blues shop etc etc), showing that wwhen the going gets tough that we are all together i.e laying on free tickets and coaches for the odd away game ala west brom (i think), better communication etc etc Servicing the fans needs in this way would promote much harmony across the board |
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| TJDIXI | Jan 9 2006, 11:55 AM Post #23 |
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i guess the new supporters forum thing will solve this |
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| proccy_blues | Jan 9 2006, 11:55 AM Post #24 |
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Joe Bradford
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agreed - i dont think they've got it sorted perfectly yet by any means, but we're heading in the right corporate direction i think. as far as i know albion are the ONLY club that have laid on free coaches so the comparison is a tad unfair - but some nice touches are required imo ;) ps - edited to say, you'll never get harmony across the board, we cant get harmony on the forums let alone between 29000 fans :o |
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| barryblue | Jan 9 2006, 11:57 AM Post #25 |
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we should be striking a balance bet,raising revenue and raising interest ie fans!!! we should be pulling out all the stop s to get the kids on board and families/schools/youth clubs....we hardly do a thing with the schools unless we do a PAID little excercise.(£5).....Think further ahead with the fans.....Look at Norwich for example... a very pro family club and pro the kids,they have been relegated and havent dropped attendances to speak of......Sports newspapers should be financing these,it costs nowt for a player to turn up to speak to kids/to reserve a section of ground for kids only,to invite them round the ground for free with a free drink drink of pop n a sandwich.......COME ON BLUES ! get this commercial side sorted because u r driving fans away and when the corporate bunch have fled u will find that we have found other things to do with our time on a Saturday as many have already done.. I will be adding pictures to this later for those on here who cannot understand!! |
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